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rainsometimes ([personal profile] rainsometimes) wrote2010-05-27 11:24 pm
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a few words about One Piece chapter 586

Not much this time, just a little

Since I expressed displeasure with some aspects of the flashback chapters, especially 583 and 584, I just wanted to say that with this chapter, pretty much everything felt right. Luffy now feels like a more believable little boy, like in "Romance Dawn". Ace looks after Luffy like a brother should, and by now I really like Flashback Ace. Strangely enough I don't feel uneasy by the even darker turn of events. I suspect this is mostly because there's now a warm emotional centre that Luffy's part of, with the three blood brothers (or 'booze brothers' ;p). Luffy and Ace are in mortal danger near the end, but they're sticking together, with Ace keeping Luffy from panicking and promising him he'll make it. ♥ They're missing Sabo and are uncertain what to do about it, but express both their faith in him and a wish for him to be happy, while Sabo is running around desperate to stop the holocaust threatening them.

The danger itself feels chillingly close to a real-world situation, with all that "get rid of the poor people making us look bad in front of the high-ups from abroad". And the blithe, in-denial attitude of the city's upper classes feels all too believable, too - sadly. It's dark and cruel, but this time it doesn't seem over-the-top - too much of an angry edge to it.

That kind of political content makes for a very good place for Dragon the revolutionary to show up. I hadn't anticipated him at all here, but now it makes perfect sense that he appears. Love that kind of thing that Oda can do so well. And Ivankov turning up as well is a lovely bonus surprise.

It all just feels so right again!

Not that it doesn't feel genuinely suspenseful, though! We do know Ace and Luffy will survive the fire, but as for the rest of the people trapped, we have no clue. Nor about Sabo. *very much hopes there'll be a better outcome for the civilians than in Robin's flashback*

[identity profile] pi90katana.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
I would love, love, love for Sabo to survive through this. As much as I miss the crew ((It's flashback time. They have to be right around the corner after this, yes? >.>)), he is growing on me. And I agree with what you said in your last post that having him die so shortly after we've dealt with Ace's death would be a bit much, so I don't think he will. ...But Oda always surprises me, so I'll try not to get my hopes up.

On the other hand, if I'm looking at this for how it would effect the plot ((Not including the sneak peaks of Dragon's AWESOME))... it would just be really awesome if Sabo were alive. If he's still stuck with the Nobles, Luffy runs a high chance of running into him again somewhere down the line.

[identity profile] serrende.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 10:49 am (UTC)(link)
When Sabo first turned up, to be honest I didn't think he stood much of a chance of surviving the flashback, especially after I was reminded of Luffy saying that Ace was the only brother he had. But these last few plot twists indicate that he might just be believed to have died. (Which I prefer rather than he renounce his brotherhood and Luffy and Ace accept that.)

[identity profile] pi90katana.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
...Oh lord, he did say that didn't he. Okay, now I'm a little more worried.

I can see that happening too, though. Or maybe he ended up with Dragon? Though I suppose it's probably best if I hold back on any theories until the flashback is concluded.

[identity profile] hsiuism.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
Ok...so...this will kind of expose me as a horrible person, but I cannot bring myself to care what happens to Sabo :( And for the record, this is completely aside from the conversation we're having about exclusivity. I dunno, I'm really having trouble valuing Sabo beyond his function as a plot device. I'm still sorting through this sense of indifference D:

I do agree though that this was a good place for Dragon to show up. His motivations make a lot more sense now (though, despite the obvious corruption of the World Government, I am still not sure I support Dragon's revolution as a viable alternative).

[identity profile] serrende.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 10:53 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, that happens. No character is going to appeal to everybody - some take a long time to warm up to, and some just never click for you.

It's struck me that this last chapter had for me the feel of something from a good, solid, old-fashioned historical YA novel, like, hm, maybe something Leon Garfield or Lloyd Alexander could have written - or writers from older times than that. Sabo reads to me like he could have come out of those books. I don't mind at all, but I could easily see how that kind of thing can be too same-old to many (not saying you have the same impression, of course!).

[identity profile] aoi24.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Anyone notice that rather lovely heel that was conversing with Dragon?
Could it be....? Only Oda will tell but I'm gunning for a 'reveal her already!!!'

[identity profile] serrende.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Probably Ivankov. From what I've heard, his speech mannerisms are present in that speech bubble.

[identity profile] aoi24.livejournal.com 2010-05-28 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Logically yeah. Now that Dragon has a hold of Sabo though I do wonder what's going to happen to him. Prospects look better for him at least.

[identity profile] shayera.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm glad you're back to the squee! ^_^

I loved Luffy and Ace in this chapter, too. Worrying and uncertain about Sabo, and Ace is actually behaving like a big brother to Luffy. And Sabo, seeing the entire corrupt society for what it is, and is still powerless to do anything about it...

Dragon turning up was such a surprise, even though it does make sense. I really, really wonder what it is he's planning...! And Ivankov! We're getting to see the Revolutionaries in action! (I wonder how many years ago Ivan-san got into Impel Down anyway... I don't think they say?)

[identity profile] serrende.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 06:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope Ivan-san doesn't get arrested already! I want him to bond with Sabo, too. They could team up trolling Dragon. ;)) Hmm... I wonder if that vengeful son who suddenly turned up from nowhere mentioned how long ago his father's sex-change was. Lemme go check.

...Fifteen years ago, it says (chapter 527 537). So this could well be it. :(
Edited 2010-05-29 18:58 (UTC)