repost of old Gintama meta on Twitter
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rainsometimesWill deactivate my private Twitter account soon.
Found a few old tweet threads, wanted to save the observation:
"sudden gintakazura thought (i haven't considered this too closely so i might well change my mind): from takasugi's pov, i could see the angle that gintoki is the one his mind tends to dwell on, whether he races to match up to his skill or delights in hurting himself by hating him
and by contrast, katsura is someone takasugi has an easier time overlooking, or should one say compartmentalizing him, when he's not right there.
but when zura *is* there, then he does consume takasugi's thoughts, making him want to possess him/stir him up/leave his mark on him
and even in a way compete with gintoki over zura.
although his flame might burn more intensely for gintoki, he wouldn't think of competing with zura over gin... that just never occurs to him. it's okay for *takasugi* to prioritize fighting gintoki (or beating him, obsessing over
him, etc) but it's not okay for zura to ignore takasugi in favour of gintoki!!"
Another old tweet thread:
"Zura has a tendency to downplay his own importance to the people he loves. At the same time he has a strong confidence in his own abilities.
And Shoyo, while still super important to him, seems *slightly* less so than he was for Gintoki and Takasugi. They got *everything* from their Sensei. Zura already had a foundation from his grandma's teachings.
But Gintoki and Takasugi were super important to Zura because he didn't have to be lonely anymore.
Thinking of how he adopted Shoyo's hairstyle and way of dress as an adult... it feels like he from rather early on sort of felt like he should take on the mantle of being like Shoyo
And be mature enough, and strong enough, to handle that.
That he thinks it's fine for him to be the one to step back into the background and support his loved ones from there because he's got the strength for it. (So long as he's not completely alone, he still hates that.)
That's where his great confidence comes in.
He believes in his capabilities in general and his ability to endure. He doesn't, fully, believe he can be enough to other people on a personal level.
I wonder if he would sometimes, when growing up, look at Gin and Takasugi squabbling and wonder how soon it would take them to notice if he wasn't there. (Oh no, made myself sad.)
Though at the same time they were his precious friends and comrades who chased away the loneliness."
Found a few old tweet threads, wanted to save the observation:
"sudden gintakazura thought (i haven't considered this too closely so i might well change my mind): from takasugi's pov, i could see the angle that gintoki is the one his mind tends to dwell on, whether he races to match up to his skill or delights in hurting himself by hating him
and by contrast, katsura is someone takasugi has an easier time overlooking, or should one say compartmentalizing him, when he's not right there.
but when zura *is* there, then he does consume takasugi's thoughts, making him want to possess him/stir him up/leave his mark on him
and even in a way compete with gintoki over zura.
although his flame might burn more intensely for gintoki, he wouldn't think of competing with zura over gin... that just never occurs to him. it's okay for *takasugi* to prioritize fighting gintoki (or beating him, obsessing over
him, etc) but it's not okay for zura to ignore takasugi in favour of gintoki!!"
Another old tweet thread:
"Zura has a tendency to downplay his own importance to the people he loves. At the same time he has a strong confidence in his own abilities.
And Shoyo, while still super important to him, seems *slightly* less so than he was for Gintoki and Takasugi. They got *everything* from their Sensei. Zura already had a foundation from his grandma's teachings.
But Gintoki and Takasugi were super important to Zura because he didn't have to be lonely anymore.
Thinking of how he adopted Shoyo's hairstyle and way of dress as an adult... it feels like he from rather early on sort of felt like he should take on the mantle of being like Shoyo
And be mature enough, and strong enough, to handle that.
That he thinks it's fine for him to be the one to step back into the background and support his loved ones from there because he's got the strength for it. (So long as he's not completely alone, he still hates that.)
That's where his great confidence comes in.
He believes in his capabilities in general and his ability to endure. He doesn't, fully, believe he can be enough to other people on a personal level.
I wonder if he would sometimes, when growing up, look at Gin and Takasugi squabbling and wonder how soon it would take them to notice if he wasn't there. (Oh no, made myself sad.)
Though at the same time they were his precious friends and comrades who chased away the loneliness."